We're going to have to define this a bit because "diamond world" means different things to different people. So broad strokes...
Developing diamond world/alt fight city
- Make a second city.
- Build and play like you would a main city.
- Complete 80 encounters in GE every week at a minimum of trial 6 or higher.
- Play any event that gives wishing wells (WW's, or fragments or shrink kits).
- Advance ages as each new age gives more city space.
- Hoard wishing wells and fountain of youths.
- Once you are strong enough to complete GE at trial 55 you can start putting WW's and FoY's in main city.
- The rationale for this is completing GE at trial 55 gives you the most FoY, fragments and shrink kits and you need a lot.
- QI doesn't give diamonds but it does give buildings that make GE trial 55 easier.
- GbG does give diamonds and playing it is worth it.
- Once you reach the last age you ever want to go to and you're done moving forward on the continent map then transition main city into a diamond world. You know how much space you have and how many WW and FoY you have in inventory. If you can fill the space then make it a passive diamond world.
Passive diamond world
- login
- hit BG and use FoE helper to see which WW/FoY give diamonds. Use charges on those then collect all.
- If you still have room for more FoY or WW then continue playing GE. 80 encounters takes almost no time and you can still generate FoY if you converted your city too soon or if you aged-up and have more space.
Chateau Frontenac caps at lv 201 at 110% reward boost. Once you are at your final age and have collected all the recurring quests then this is safe to delete.
If you really need red GE fight boosts then consider St Mark's Basilica. (it's still spelled incorrectly in game.) For diamond cities (and main cities) level 1-200 are garbage but at lv 400 it gives 20,800% red attack GE and 11,500% red defense GE. I can't justify building or levelling this GB but if you really need those boosts they're there. *Helpful hint you may get your red attack needs met with the next round of GB updates.
Deal Castle for people who really need GE fight boosts. We don't recommend building this GB but if you level it to 400 you get...
- 1,300% base blue attack and defense
- medals
- 7,500 % red and blue defense GE
- 14,000 % red and blue attack GE
Temple of Relics is a must have and level to 200 where the relic hunt caps at 35%. When you no longer do any GE then it's safe to delete this GB.
What about SC and HC they have a chance to give diamonds? Yes and if you have spare FP after you've levelled the recommended GB's then sure build a HC and hope one of the 10 charges at level 201 give a diamond return. If you have the patience to do negotiations then build a SC too but I can't recommend either of them. The once a year or once every two years it hits with diamond just isn't worth it.
What about running the Arctic Harbor or Oceanic Terminal? If you're camped in one of those ages and have a surplus of goods you can run them every day and there's a tiny chance of getting 50 diamonds. But if you're in one of those ages you're better off donating those goods to your guild if you're in one. Why?
Now what is missing from this list? Arc, Obs, AI Core, holly trinity etc. Once you transition from fighting city to passive collection then these buildings are not needed. Sacrilege I know but passive cities don't care about anything other than diamonds. FP's and goods don't matter. Be a good guild mate and level small player's guild goods buildings and donate goods to treasury.
If you're going to be in a guild and remove your Arc, obs etc then just routinely donate the goods you get from WW's and FoY to your guild.
Would a HAU Indy city and farming GE/GBG/PE be a decent option?
ReplyDeleteHaving a HAU city is fun. Everyone should do it at least once but I can't recommend it for a diamond city. The huge advantage of HAU is the ability to push attrition. For a main world that's a great thing but for a diamond world it's a trap.
DeleteDiamond worlds should only take 10min a day to manage. If you find yourself in GbG and you've already done 2k fights that season but you're waiting for sectors to open it's not a diamond world but rather a second main city. And that's fine but this can easily lead to burn-out. It could also hinder you main if you're spending time in the diamond or secondary world.
HAU fighting is inherently slower as you have to make sure you didn't kill-off your HAU. It also costs diamonds to heal those HAU. There is a hospital in the town hall now so it's a lot easier to bring a HAU back from the dead. Back in the day we'd have to contact support. The danger is if the hospital is full and you lose a unit that took months to get that hurts a lot.
Instead of going for Hover Tanks and/or Turtles what I'd suggest is camping in an age where the next age has a dominant unit.
So camp in
colonial to get howitzers from indy
modern to get MG Team of PME
TE to get Hover Tank and clear the continent map to Mars getting all the expansions
We get so many next age troops that it's entirely viable to not build AO or cosmic catalyst and just use next age troops. Or more specifically use same age troops until nearing attrition cap then switching to next age.
The biggest advantage of doing this is it doesn't matter if a Hover dies as you get lots daily.
The other consideration is also important. City space. Limiting yourself to a tiny Indy or PE city gets old quickly. You'll be looking at your inventory at all these good buildings and have no room to place them. Frankly I get that now in SASH even with all the QI expansions.
HAU is like a rite of passage for FoE players but the utility of doing that now compared to back in the day is limited and limiting.
Thank you for the detailed reply. I've been playing a little over 2 years. My main city in b-world is a PE HAU that I'm having a lot of fun with. Pushed past 1B and enjoy the challenge of working with about 40% less space than a SASH player.
DeleteI did start a 2nd city/world but it's been a mess. You are spot on about burnout if you try doing too much. I'm trying to do a HAU IIndy setup there and it too much.
I honestly regret starting a 2nd city/world. But I've done a lot of work there already (Arc 80, CF almost to 120, 5 WWs) and feel stuck. I probably should shut it down...
DeleteMeh I just build 29 worlds to Iron Age and sit them in dead guilds with some gbg fighters. You only need to log in once a week, and if you get kicked just move to another. If you have the patience do GE level 1 and get a Arc to 10 to look active.
ReplyDeleteMuch less setup, no need for daily logins, no need to spend time collecting. Just buy diamonds with GbG gold every 2 weeks, you'll average about 3k.
Battle cities are valid. It's a consistent source of diamonds provided your guild doesn't look at you sideways for not gemming a camp or three. Dead or casual guilds are perfect for this playstyle.
DeleteSo you made this post because one person asked about a diamond world guide? Ngl that's pretty cool. Not just the guide but the discussion. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI was planning on adding a diamond world perspective to the GB issue but forgot. One person asked for it so I expanded what I was going to write and made it a separate post. But even if that wasn't the plan I would have done that for that one person. If one person is asking then there are others who also need the information.
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