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Wednesday, July 9, 2025

GbG Trials getting diamonds is going to be a challenge

This is the GbG store for platinum coins.  As you can see the diamonds can be purchased with platinum coins.

Maximum is 1000 diamonds per 70 days?  This has to be a mistake as we were told they would refresh more frequently than that.

So let us be very clear.  In diamond league you have a 48% chance to win loot after a fight.  You have a 1% chance that the loot will be 45 diamonds.  So let's make the math simple.  If you do 200 fights you can expect to win 45 diamonds on average.  If you do 1k fights/day you can expect 225 diamonds.  In one season with 10k fights it would be reasonable to expect about 2,225 diamonds.  

Now let's assume the image above is not correct and it will refresh every 14 days instead of 70 days.  That's still a hard cap of 1000 diamonds or significantly less than half of one GbG season.

So even if they were super generous with platinum coins (yeah right) this can only be seen as a diamond nerf.  

This is the death of GbG for diamond cities.


Now you might be thinking that players are going to get so many platinum coins that it will be ok because we can buy lots of diamonds and other stuff.  So let's put this in perspective.

It costs 6k platinum coins for 75 fragments of the Somerset Hospital upgrade kit.  You need 350 fragments for a complete upgrade.  

That means you will need 28k platinum coins for on upgrade kit.

It costs 10k for 100 diamonds.  The cost goes up for each purchase so basically it will cost the same number of platinum coins as it does for 200ish diamonds.  Do you think they will give enough platinum coins in one GbG season to get the upgrade?  No that's ridiculous.  So that means the intent right now (I fully expect this to change before live server) is to limit diamonds earned from GbG to less than 200 per season with platinum coins.

We don't know what's in the Gold coin store yet be we do have the silver shop.

Keep in mind the silver will be the most plentiful currency and the shop frequently refreshes so there is probably no need to pay an escalated price for say a tourney ground when you can just wait for the refresh.

This indicates to me that nothing is finalized yet and we're getting a half-baked product.

So we reached out to a contact and asked what the game balance expectations were for highly-active GbG fighters in terms of ability to purchase diamonds with coins earned in one GbG season and the following is the answer.

"While the GbG Trial is a new feature and the balancing is expected to be adjusted over the coming months what should be available in terms of purchase ability is a maximum of 5 silver packs, 3 gold packs and  platinum packs.  People who cannot fight on high trial levels with high attrition should expect less.  We feel the loss of diamonds will be offset by the ability to get the missing fragments of buildings players already have in their inventory."

So by my math that means a very strong GbG player could possibly buy 500+300+200 diamonds or like I said at the top of this post 1k/season or less than half of what we get now.

Edit:  We're currently testing this out and the number may have to be revised down to 800 not 1000.  We're doing some base tests and will know more in the coming days.  July 10, 2025

I hope every player on Beta gets very loud on the forums and discord about this because that's the only way they will change this diamond nerf.



 

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Monday, July 7, 2025

Battleground Trials coming to Beta on July 10, 2025

 Embargo until July 7, 2025

People already know how the trials work in GE so this should not be that much of a learning gap for the transition to GbG.

How it works is pretty simple.  

The player choses the GbG trial difficulty level every day.  The following is from testing and may change before Beta.

You first select a trial level.




So when GbG starts you will have to pick a trial level.  You can then change that level anytime but the change won't take affect until after server reset.  So you cannot for example pick trial 3 then go to trial 1 when your attrition become onerous.  

Trial level determines the following about the enemy:

  • their flat boost (red and blue attack and defense).  Attrition works as it always has and the enemy boost with higher attrition is added to their flat boost value
  • their % boost multiplier
  • their critical hit % on you

So to make is simple

total enemy fight boost = (attrition * boost multiplier determined by trial level) +flat boost determined by trial level


Before every encounter you will have the option to see the difficulty.



You can see the current trial is 3 and all the modifiers at that level and also the total enemy boost.

Trial Difficulty Modifiers


TrialEnemy Army Boost Modifier
Enemy Army Boost Multiplier
Enemy Critical Chance
Negotiation Multiplier
Rank Points Multiplier
1010,00%12
22510,00%12,1
3501,10,00%1,12,2
4751,10,00%1,12,3
51001,20,00%1,22,4
61251,20,00%1,22,5
71501,30,00%1,32,6
81751,30,00%1,32,7
92001,40,00%1,42,8
102251,50,00%1,52,9
112751,51,00%1,53
123251,62,00%1,63,1
133751,63,00%1,63,2
144251,74,00%1,73,3
154751,75,00%1,73,4
165251,86,00%1,83,5
175751,87,00%1,83,6
186251,98,00%1,93,7
196751,99,00%1,93,8
20725210,00%23,9
21825211,00%24
229252,112,00%2,14,1
2310252,113,00%2,14,2
2411252,214,00%2,24,3
2512252,215,00%2,24,4
2613252,316,00%2,34,5
2714252,317,00%2,34,6
2815252,418,00%2,44,7
2916252,419,00%2,44,8
3017252,520,00%2,54,9
3118502,521,00%2,55
3219752,622,00%2,65,1
3321002,623,00%2,65,2
3422252,724,00%2,75,3
3523502,725,00%2,75,4
3624752,826,00%2,85,5
3726002,827,00%2,85,6
3827252,928,00%2,95,7
3928502,929,00%2,95,8
402975330,00%35,9
4131253,132,00%3,16
4232753,234,00%3,26,1
4334253,336,00%3,36,2
4435753,438,00%3,46,3
4537253,540,00%3,56,4
4638753,642,00%3,66,5
4740253,744,00%3,76,6
4841753,846,00%3,86,7
4943253,948,00%3,96,8
504475450,00%47


Rewards are changing and there are two separate paths for them.

1) rewards per encounter.  You have a % chance to earn a reward from every battle/neg you complete and it's based on your trial level.



2) End of season guild placement rewards.



Instead of getting random rewards per encounter you now get battleground coins in silver, gold or platinum.  The higher the trial the more coins and proportion of gold and platinum.

You then go to the shop item store to use them in the Battleground Season Store

I should note that the coins don't go away when the season ends so it's not like event currency.  The event item store goes away a week after an event ends but this stays.  But.....there is a cap meaning you can't just accumulate forever and wait for something good.  Once you hit the cap it no longer accumulates.  On testing the prizes were garbage but we were told that they were just placeholders so we'll see.

The above picture is the silver store and it's about what you'd expect garbage currency to be.  Now while the coins don't go away the "prizes" do refresh with every GbG season and we were assured diamonds would be in these stores but they did not confirm if diamonds would only be in the championship store.

So gain of salt time this is what we were told would be in the silver store

  • random goods bundles
  • FP packs
  • current age units
  • diamonds
  • tourney grounds fragments
  • GbG selection kits


Battleground Championship Store


This is where you can spend the gold and platinum coins.

This store has purchase limits that reset with every new championship (12 weeks).  The older an item is the more it's discounted.  This is where people can get the missing fragments or selection kits they need to complete old GbG buildings.

So gold store will offer fragments for side buildings like thunderdrake siegeshop while platinum store will offer fragments and full selection kits for main reward buildings like Thunderdrake Citadel

We did confirm that diamonds would be available from both the gold and platinum shops.


Rank Points:

Trial level determines the rank points per battle/neg

Fights in GbG will be rewarded with more rank points than fights outside of GbG

So a fight in GbG trial 1 will earn 2x the rank points of a fight in the hood for example.  The full rank point breakdown will be released later.


Just a note for Beta players who are on mobile.  This feature is really not ready to go live and the current version is not supported for mobile.  That means mobile players will not be able to select their trial level and will only be fighting and negotiating on trial 1.  However if you want you can pick trial 50 on PC then go to mobile and all your fights will be on trial 1 but all your rewards will be from trial 50.  But don't do that.  This is more of a FYI than an endorsement.


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Sunday, July 6, 2025

QI is finally implementing replace troops

 Ok so you know how awesome it is to use replace troops in most aspects of FoE?  Well you will soon be able to use that in every fighting instance (except continent map).

So yes you can hold down the R button and smash the left click button until your quantum actions are out or you run out of troops!  Oh happy days indeed!

Starting on Beta in a few days and then it will go to live server a few weeks after that.

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QI advanced settlement guide WIP

 This is not THE DEFINITIVE guide to playing QI.  This is just A guide so do what works best for you. This guide will show 8 expansions purc...

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